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Rotwang
June 11th 04, 02:16 AM
I've just red about X-Plane, but I wanted more feedback on it.

I'm also looking for a simulator that allows you to fly a WWII JU88.

Diskhead
June 12th 04, 01:26 AM
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 01:16:07 GMT, "Rotwang"
> wrote:

>I've just red about X-Plane, but I wanted more feedback on it.

I have the 5.66 version so can't really comment on the latest version.
I like FS2002 myself.

>I'm also looking for a simulator that allows you to fly a WWII JU88.

IL-2 Sturmovik: Forgotten Battles Gold.

Gldcomp
June 12th 04, 08:13 PM
Why something so specific ? care to comment ?

"Rotwang" > wrote in message
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> I've just red about X-Plane, but I wanted more feedback on it.
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> I'm also looking for a simulator that allows you to fly a WWII JU88.
>
>

Joe
June 12th 04, 10:51 PM
http://fighterace.jaleco.com/

Over 100 ww2 planes to fly
"Rotwang" > wrote in message ...
I've just red about X-Plane, but I wanted more feedback on it.

I'm also looking for a simulator that allows you to fly a WWII JU88.

Rotwang
June 13th 04, 12:51 AM
"Gldcomp" > schreef in bericht
om...
> Why something so specific ? care to comment ?

I've always thought it was an interesting aircraft, nothing more to it.

> "Rotwang" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I've just red about X-Plane, but I wanted more feedback on it.
> >
> > I'm also looking for a simulator that allows you to fly a WWII JU88.
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> >
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Johan Kütt
June 13th 04, 02:52 PM
I'm also considering buying x-plane and was wondering how much scenery and
airports does it have? Only America or Europe and other parts of world also?
How much add-ons are there (both scenery and planes)?

Is there something like ServInfo for Mac also?

johan


> "Rotwang" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I've just red about X-Plane, but I wanted more feedback on it.
>>

CT
June 13th 04, 03:05 PM
Hi,

Johan Kütt wrote:
> I'm also considering buying x-plane and was wondering how much scenery and
> airports does it have? Only America or Europe and other parts of world also?
> How much add-ons are there (both scenery and planes)?

I do not (yet ?) have X-plane but as for your questions, you may consider these links :

http://www.x-plane.com/hacking.html
http://www.x-plane.com/xworld.html

I think they will help you in your quest ...

Quilljar
June 13th 04, 03:26 PM
"Johan Kütt" > wrote in message
...
> I'm also considering buying x-plane and was wondering how much scenery and
> airports does it have? Only America or Europe and other parts of world
also?
> How much add-ons are there (both scenery and planes)?


X-plane is very good and a great sim experience. It has excellent aircraft
characteristics and a huge fan base adding scenery and aircraft. It is
developing photoreal scenery and autogen very like MSFS. It is a well worth
the money. However, it is a very different experience from Microsoft's sim
and you may prefer it or not. In many ways it is hard to compare. You should
go to the many X-Plane websites and take a good look at the screenshots and
the forums to get a better idea.

Robert Morrisette
June 13th 04, 11:26 PM
Alpha Simulations has a JU88

"Gldcomp" > wrote in message
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> Why something so specific ? care to comment ?
>
> "Rotwang" > wrote in message
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> > I've just red about X-Plane, but I wanted more feedback on it.
> >
> > I'm also looking for a simulator that allows you to fly a WWII JU88.
> >
> >
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Thorbjörn Schönbeck
June 14th 04, 09:27 AM
"Rotwang" > wrote:

> I've just red about X-Plane, but I wanted more feedback on it.

Just go to www.x-plane.com and download the latest version (7.41). It is
a full version, however, you can only fly in San Bernardino and after 6
minutes your stick won't work anymore.

This will definitely help you to find out if you like it :-)

Personally I love X-Plane, mainly because it is the only flightsim that
runs reasonably on Mac and it is also possible to join VATSIM and fly
online just as with the MSFS.

There are lots of freeware addons and scenery, however, this is the weak
spot of XPlane and if you looking for nice scenery and lots of airports,
than XPlane is definitely the wrong choice. Here are the things which
amazes me most:

the flight model is extremely realistic - try to land a Cessna 172 with
crosswind and you'll see what I mean :-)

you can alter any aircraft and design even new ones without great effort

Weather and sky are beautiful - but for the awesome 3d-clouds you'll
need a strong PC or Mac

and so many other things..

HTH,

Thor


--
Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts. (R. Feynman)

Johan Kütt
June 14th 04, 12:22 PM
I'm quite sure I'll buy x-plane in the end of summer. But now I'd like to
know which joystick you recommend. I've used only MS Force Feedback 2 with
MS FS and was quite satisfied. It should definately have force feedback.

johan


in article , Quilljar at
wrote on 13.06.2004 17:26:

>
> "Johan Kütt" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I'm also considering buying x-plane and was wondering how much scenery and
>> airports does it have? Only America or Europe and other parts of world
> also?
>> How much add-ons are there (both scenery and planes)?
>
>
> X-plane is very good and a great sim experience. It has excellent aircraft
> characteristics and a huge fan base adding scenery and aircraft. It is
> developing photoreal scenery and autogen very like MSFS. It is a well worth
> the money. However, it is a very different experience from Microsoft's sim
> and you may prefer it or not. In many ways it is hard to compare. You should
> go to the many X-Plane websites and take a good look at the screenshots and
> the forums to get a better idea.
>
>

AL Mills
June 14th 04, 02:05 PM
> Just go to www.x-plane.com and download the latest version (7.41). It is
> a full version, however, you can only fly in San Bernardino and after 6
> minutes your stick won't work anymore.
>
> This will definitely help you to find out if you like it :-)

Well, under the above limitations, I didn't like
it at all. I never could get it working under
Linux, what with all the extra crap you have to
have installed in the right (undocumented)
folders, and while it worked in XP, I never got
used enough to the keyboard commands before the
6 minute limit was up.

What I gained from the experience is this; FS
2004 is plenty good enough for me. I wish it
would run under Linux but what the heck. If
X-plane gave me 15 minutes and the option to fly
somewhere more familiar, I might have a better
experience. I just don't want to get in the
habit of throwing good money after bad.

Just an opinion, mind you.

AL

Dave Pearson
June 14th 04, 05:46 PM
* AL Mills >:

> [SNIP] and while it worked in XP,
> I never got used enough to the keyboard commands before the 6 minute limit
> was up.

In all fairness to X-Plane that does seem to be six minutes longer than
you'd get to test MSFS.

--
Dave Pearson
http://www.davep.org/

Diskhead
June 14th 04, 08:35 PM
On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:26:13 GMT, "Robert Morrisette"
> wrote:

>Alpha Simulations has a JU88

But can you use it in a combat situation - no. As I said earlier,
IL2:FB is the answer.

Rotwang
June 14th 04, 10:16 PM
> >Alpha Simulations has a JU88
>
> But can you use it in a combat situation - no. As I said earlier,
> IL2:FB is the answer.

I have IL2:FB, but no flyable JU88 ...

Diskhead
June 15th 04, 03:25 PM
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 21:16:14 GMT, "Rotwang"
> wrote:


>I have IL2:FB, but no flyable JU88 ...
>
>

http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/1011.html

Diskhead
June 15th 04, 03:28 PM
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 21:16:14 GMT, "Rotwang"
> wrote:


>I have IL2:FB, but no flyable JU88 ...
>
>

And more specifically;
http://www.jagdgeschwader53.flugzeugwerk.net/ju88/Index2.htm

Rotwang
June 15th 04, 08:07 PM
"Diskhead" > schreef in bericht
...
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 21:16:14 GMT, "Rotwang"
> > wrote:
>
>
> >I have IL2:FB, but no flyable JU88 ...
> >
> >
>
> And more specifically;
> http://www.jagdgeschwader53.flugzeugwerk.net/ju88/Index2.htm

Thanks !

Thorbjörn Schönbeck
June 16th 04, 02:56 AM
AL Mills > wrote:

> > Just go to www.x-plane.com and download the latest version (7.41). It is
> > a full version, however, you can only fly in San Bernardino and after 6
> > minutes your stick won't work anymore.

> Well, under the above limitations, I didn't like
> it at all. I never could get it working under
> Linux, what with all the extra crap you have to
> have installed in the right (undocumented)
> folders, and while it worked in XP, I never got
> used enough to the keyboard commands before the
> 6 minute limit was up.

Al, nevermind...

As far as I know, only the stick is disabled after 6 minutes, after then
you can continue your flight using the autopilot. Maybe this is not very
helpful to find out about the flight realism, because 6 minutes are far
too short for a takeoff and landing at different airports.

On the other hand, as mentioned elsewhere - MSFS offers you zero minutes
for testing :-) From my point of wiew, the demo is well suited to see if
and how fast X-Plane runs on a specific computer and not for extensive
testing...

Since I am using only my mac for flying, it is hard for me to compare
MSFS and X-Plane - and when it comes to scenery, FS2004 looks amazing to
me and is no competition for X-Plane. Anyway, cruising with a small
Cessna or Piper in X-Plane and heavy weather feels pretty realistic to
me and is a bunch of fun.

just my 2ct....


Cheers,

Thor




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